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August 1, 2021

Using the I Don’t Know Tool

Welcome. We have mentioned to you recently that we are going to be focusing on the Body piece of the Body, Personality, Awareness teachings. We’re in that phase now, and of course, Body gets it last. So, this is the thing that had to wait until you were more skilled at surrendering Personality and choiceless choice and all the things we’ve been teaching over the past few years.

And of course, the Body piece doesn’t just mean your gingerbread, right? It means your physical surroundings, your gingerbread, and your alternate expressions. At this point, that’s what we’re counting as the Body piece. That’s everything you see, hear, taste, touch. It’s your gingerbread, including its memories and its projections about the future and the present moment. It’s your alternate expressions that you’ve experienced here on Earth that collaboratively becomes reunification, Level 10, at some point in time. And right now, it just becomes an increased awareness that you don’t end at your skin. And that you’re NOT just this one gingerbread shape, right?

In order for all of that to be true, you have to surrender what you have regarded as your identity. What you consider to be “I”, what’s referenced when you say your social security number and your driver’s license number and your name. How you have identified and decided who you are.

One of the big components of that is surrendering the sense of arrogance. Because arrogance says, I already know, there’s nothing more here I need to learn or figure out, it’s already all decided and has been for 20 or 30 or 40 or 50 years. And that version of arrogance leads you to cut off your access to the Field of Infinite Possibilities, double down on the limitations that Personality has offered you, and fixate on what you already know as a way to justify and defend and protect your current existence and way you’re navigating the world. One of the ways we’ve encouraged you to work with this is to use the And Tool. Say, And… whenever you have anything that you’re saying, especially if you feel strongly about it, leave room for the And.

Just say “I don’t know” over and over and over again first. And then instantaneously put all of your focus on what arises in you after the word “know”. I don’t know. And… then what comes up? Because this isn’t something that you want to get passive about. You don’t want to be going around saying, I don’t know, I don’t know without actually doing the And Tool. Is saying “I don’t know” the same as saying what is true now? It’s great but we’re not actually fixated on that. We’re not just looking for a pattern interrupt, we’re not just looking to quiet your hamster wheel mind, though it’s very effective for that and hurrah, but that’s not the vastly changed state at best. That’s Level 6, not triggered. We’re not just looking to get to Level 6. We are looking for the vastly changed state, which isn’t discovered by just going, I don’t know and then thinking some other thoughts, or I don’t know and feeling some other feelings. It’s really looking at what comes up after the word “know”. What arises in you?

It’s extraordinarily important to do this exercise consistently. If we’re looking for Awareness, if we’re looking for the surrender of identity, if we’re looking for the vastly changed state, we have to take that tool to the next level. And that next level is what comes up AFTER the word “know”.

In a lot of experiences, what comes up is Personality sneaking in and saying, okay, we’ll think or worry or be mad instead, feel like an idiot for not having an answer, for not knowing. Basically, being mean to yourself because what “I don’t know” means at its core is: I am in uncertainty. I am in uncertainty and I will choose to abide in uncertainty. Not try to fix it. Not try to make it go away. Not try to reassure myself out of it. Not try to cope with it. I’m going to abide in it. Marinate in it. Exist in the truth of uncertainty. I’m going to sit there in it, and all the stuff that flops and flies up and asks for my attention is going to be discarded because I am not trying to escape the reality of uncertainty.

The human condition, the Homo sapiens condition is: don’t have there be any uncertainty. And if there’s some uncertainty, let me choose it. Like, I’ll choose to skydive, but I’ll make sure I have a parachute and a teacher. I’m going to choose all these other things to mitigate the amount of uncertainty I allow myself to be legitimately exposed to or willingly exposed to. But the truth of the matter, when you really look at the difference between Homo sapiens and Homo Spiritus–the difference between the Personality filter being dominant and abiding in Awareness–is going to come down to your willingness to marinate in the truth of uncertainty.

So, when you say, I don’t know, it can quiet your thoughts for a moment.

But you have to be on the lookout for what arises, occurs, shows up, and tries to get right back in. A good example is like how oil and water separate from each other when you try to combine them. Saying I don’t know is like putting in that drop and Personality shoots off. Unfortunately, Personality is extraordinarily sneaky and it will find a way to end-run back in. And if you’re not paying attention, this is that middle, the bounce off, bubble up thing. Just said a different way. Personality will re-encroach.

And if you let your arrogance pop up and be like, oh well, I said I don’t know so I’m okay. Yeesh. Because it’s going to be right there again.

So, earlier today Veronica was like, alright, I want to work on this. She was out in the hot tub prepping for the meeting and she said, alright, the thing in my life that feels most weird and most unresolved and most chock full of Personality and is covered up with scar tissue of years and years and probably lifetimes and lifetimes, is the money situation, the debt situation. And she looks out and she’s like, it’s so weird that it’s the way it is. We told you at an earlier meeting when she did her taxes, the amount of income and the amount of expense was almost the same number within a couple hundred dollars, which if she had tried, she wouldn’t have been able to pull that off. It’s weird. There are always these weird little things around it. She’s like, that’s really weird. Now, the weird used to be processed as I suck or I’m doing something wrong or I’m not a good channel. Right now, it’s like, huh. She just stares at it like, huh. I don’t understand you and I don’t get you, but you’re weird or something else going on.

So, she thought about her debt and she said, I don’t know. I don’t know how this is going to ever be or could be resolved. Shorten that down to just, I don’t know. That’s the first step. Because if you add in more or use different words than that, you’re just giving surface area for Personality. I don’t know is an extraordinarily clean way to do this tool.

So, she would say, I don’t know, and we would say great, what comes up after you say I don’t know? And then she paid a heck of a lot of attention. Because it’s really easy for this to be like oh look, there’s a bunny or oh look, squirrel, instead of really doubling down on focusing on what’s there. That has been very easy for me to skip over, ignore, pretend it doesn’t exist and hope everything works out well. Who wants to live like that? Nobody. She said, I don’t know. And then let what was really there show its face and speak up. And the key in this is you’re just acknowledging the truth, right? It’s always been like that and it will continue to be like that unless something changes. So, just letting yourself acknowledge the truth. But this is vital, you cannot let Personality evaluate what you acknowledge as truth.

So she says things about debt and she says, I don’t know, and the thing that pops up is, fix it. Okay, there’s Personality saying fix it. Well, Personality has been saying fix it for 20 years. That clearly isn’t the path. So she went back and said, I don’t know again and then some other words came up. And every time another word came up, she acknowledged that that was part of what is going on, that unconsciousness coming into consciousness, acknowledging it without letting Personality make her feel bad about it or evaluate it or tell her anything about it. It was I don’t know. Oh, this thing, this feeling of negativity has been under there. I haven’t noticed it before. There it is, I’m going to stare it in the eyes, and then her response to that is, I don’t know. Because in this case, Personality will say fix this right now or you suck, or whatever it wants to say that day. And the key then is not to then run with Personality’s assumptions about the situation, rather to look at straight in the eyes and say, I don’t know again.

Because you’re not saying I don’t know hoping that this time Personality is going to come up with a great solution to whatever it is. Your answer to the big trigger–anything–is no, that’s not what we’re doing. You’re simply saying I don’t know to see what arises in you. What has been unconscious in you? What have you been ignoring in you? And then you go back to I don’t know. Because really what you’re trying to do is marinate in I don’t know, marinate in uncertainty without it causing you to return to Personality. It doesn’t matter what comes up after you say I don’t know, what matters is your ability to return consistently to abiding in I don’t know, until the bubble up of choiceless choice occurs.

This is just another way to purposely stimulate you to recognize the unconscious Personality dynamics that are actually running the show and that you’re just trying to ignore. And so you use your Warrior energy and you turn into it and you say, I don’t know. And when whatever you’ve turned into tries to explain it all to you or describe it all or empower you in some way that’s really not empowering, you say, I don’t know again.

And that’s the fierce moment. That’s the moment of true transformation because you are engaged in a vastly changed state. You generate a vastly changed state by refusing to engage. And also refusing to ignore. So you refuse to ignore, you allow this stuff to come up but you don’t engage with it when it does.

Why do you need to allow it to come up? Because a lot of times if you haven’t looked that stuff in the face, it’s actually sneakily running the show without you being aware of it. So this is a great opportunity to do a few things: one, get that unconscious stuff more up to the conscious level; two, to really monitor your boundaries with yourself about what you’re willing to let Personality do or not–boss you around, not boss you around; three, it’s an opportunity to create a vastly changed state.

Which we feel is a pretty darn powerful thing all the way around. Those are three very powerful things.

So, we would invite each of you to figure out what one of your main things is that weirdly, is still an issue. It’s like wow, this just hangs on or is really loud for me today. And then say, I don’t know and see what arises.

One of the things you have to kind of keep in mind was that people would say something like: when I say I don’t know, what arises is emptiness. And that’s fantastic. However, it’s easier for emptiness to be what arises when you’re in a situation where we are emanating a higher vibrational intention to you and you’re matching energy with that. So, if this right now doesn’t really give you anything much to work with using this tool, try it when you’re stressed out or when you’re not in the community where everyone is intending to surrender Personality.

Does anyone have an example they’re willing to share?

We will add, part of this is to acknowledge and respect and and marinate in the reality of uncertainty. Yay, we need to do that part more. The other thing is, this starts to break down the walls around what identity is. Because if for a long time you say, using Veronica’s example, well, I’m really confused about how to solve this debt problem and then you try to figure it out, and it doesn’t work and you feel awful, that becomes a part of your identity. And if it’s on whatever your big issue is, that can become a big part of your identity. So, if instead, you break this down in the way we’ve described so far today, you end up changing the way you identify yourself. Which helps us with this Body piece that we’re on.

And so, people will say things like I’m not lovable or no one would want to marry me or I’ll never get ahead. They have these limitations that have been programmed into them through their life circumstances. That’s your identity, a portion of it. So, if we start to break down the edges around that, not only is it healing, but it’s also helping us with the surrender identity bit. It’s really powerful because it’s sort of the core, at least for now, the core tool for the Body piece.

Anya says she has the debt issue. Randy says finding affordable housing. Okay, so Anya and Randy, when you hold in your mind or your heart, however you’re experiencing your issues, just hold that feeling of I don’t know how to solve this in you. And then say the words, I don’t know. You can say them out loud, if that’s possible. And then tell us what arises immediately after you say the word know.

Randy says tears.

Yeah. Okay, we’ll just let those tears happen for a minute.

And then turn again, Randy, and say I don’t know again, and see what comes up.

Dennis says in my experience, the first I don’t know skipped Personality. The second I don’t know skipped Sneaky Personality. The issue I did this with was the inner critic loop from my hardcore schooling days.

Okay. Dennis, can you explain a little more? We need more words from you because we don’t know what you mean. Can you just illuminate that a little bit more? And we think you picked a really good issue.

We want to say, it’s easy to be a cheater on this and maybe not pick something that’s really a big deal or really matters or is really affecting you. Sounds like you guys are not cheating.

Lee Ann says having Crohn’s for 30 years, feeling I had to be Superwoman, superhuman. Now, literally having that cut out of my life is huge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, when you say, I don’t know, having that background that you just shared with us Lee Ann when you say, I don’t know, what happens?

Okay, back to Randy. When she says, I don’t know about affordable housing, she hears get a job. Okay. Now, turn again on that. Randy, turn again on that and say I don’t know. Which you can tell is the total truth because I don’t know about getting a job, right? I don’t know if that’s Personality telling me that, I don’t know if it’s a good idea, I don’t know if it’s a bad idea. I don’t know what job I would get, I don’t know anything so it’s easy, we would imagine, to say I don’t know. And remember, it doesn’t hurt to use your Warrior energy on this one, folks. So, you can be a little bit like, I don’t know, right? Don’t be shy about letting your Warrior out a little on this.

Anya says, when she does hers on her debt, she’s feeling failure and guilt. Now, don’t let Personality make you think about that. You cannot let P make you think. You turn, you use your Warrior energy and say I don’t know.

Lee Ann says, identity shift. Saying I don’t know results in a feeling of freedom.


And, you know, it’s not hard to see that. That’s a vastly changed state, right? Is this one of those things where it might not take very many goes at this for you to enter the vastly changed state. Because if you have the oh God, I feel like crap about whatever my thing is, and then you I don’t know it a few times, all of a sudden, you’re like, liberated from it, from something that has been bogging you all down. Leanne said hers was 30 years, right? We’re pretty sure everybody’s has been around for a while. Dennis said his was from his schooling. These are things that are bogging you down that we have not rooted out yet and we’re going to do it using Warrior energy and the I don’t know tool and it’s just bad ass.

Ron. I was recently blasted verbally which brought up strong helpless us feelings from childhood. Don’t know how to respond.

Okay. Turn into, I don’t know. And it’s not, I don’t know how to respond, right? It’s just I don’t know. I’m acknowledging that I’m in complete uncertainty about this. In every way shape or form. And what we’re doing is looking for how to liberate the reality of uncertainty from the grip of Personality.

We’re liberating the reality of uncertainty from the grip of Personality.

You are uncertain constantly and if Personality’s in charge of your relationship to uncertainty, and Personality’s constantly in charge.

Okay, Randy says now I get it’s not relevant now.

Okay, turn right back into it. Randy, turn right back into it and say I don’t know, because what does that even mean? Personality’s grasping at straws. It’s desperate now, Randy, you’ve got it on the ropes. Keep it there. I don’t know it again.

Lee Ann says yes, vastly changed state. Not at all in a way I expected.

Tada. That’s our bell sound. Why is it not how you expected? Because Personality cannot tell you what Awareness is like. And when you experience a vastly changed state, you’re like, I had no idea this was possible.

Tiffy says I have a thing around feeling protective of my daughter Olivia.

So, Tiffany gets caught up with not good enough emotions when her daughter feels unloved. The first I don’t know brings up more Personality about feeling and wanting to be a better fixer or supportive of the daughter. The second I don’t know brings up all the information of what the reflection for all the gingerbreads involved. Then dynamic becomes like a blanket experience to all the gingerbread shapes. And that’s why you cannot let Personality step in at that point, right? Because if Personality steps in at that point, then it’s just going to get worse. You’re just going to have more of what you’ve always had. So, you have to turn on turn away from Personality and turn back into I don’t know. This is yet the most sticky I don’t know.

Dennis bounced off an old self-image of deeply not wanting to not excel at exam, studies, etc. Basically, not wanting to blow it, so then he went to the second I don’t know and that bounced off a reactive Survival Instinct, Sneaky Personality self-image that arose to try to evaluate and judge the dropping of the original of not wanting to blow the exam. Isn’t that amazing? It’s so easy to grab the one that is not the first one that says you better not blow it on your exams. You’re like oh, I don’t need to be that guy anymore, gonna bounce off that guy, and then it’s, oh well, let’s judge the first guy. That feels a little bit more evolved. This reactive, Sneaky Personality dressed as an imagined projection from Coach, Mentor, standard-bearer type figures that impress my gingerbread life at some point in the past. Personality and Sneaky Personality will come up with better and better, or more ludicrous and more ludicrous ways to dictate to you how you should be experiencing this thing that you’ve been experiencing for a long time. But you have to remember P has no legs to stand on.

Remember it’s the rock skipping on the water. The only reason the rock skips on the water is because you throw it hard. If you don’t throw it hard, it doesn’t skip. Personality counts on you skipping over a bunch of stuff and not noticing the bullshit that it’s giving you. When you slow things down and you notice the bullshit, you’re like, oh are you freaking kidding me? I’m not playing that game. But if you don’t slow it down, it’s really hard to notice it. That’s the middle.

Lee Ann, says being uncertain now feels like a solid stance.

I’m solidly uncertain, we love that. But a stance like the Warrior being totally present. a visual yet, we get you, but it’s just hilarious to try to put the stuff in two words, right? I’m solidly uncertain. It’s wonderful. That’s why we use the word marinate. Because it sort of feels like you’re soaking in it. Rather than, you’re rigid in it, right?

Mindy says health challenges are up for me. I don’t know anything much at all.

Okay, Mindy. So, what happens when you say I don’t know?

So, if the Warrior is walking through the forest and sees a little cave and he’s like, something’s in there. It could be a bear or a person. It might be a guy trying to attack me. Raccoons. Who knows what’s living in there? But chances are, someone’s in that cave. That’s a good cave. I’m gonna go live in there if I need a cave. Same thing. You’re walking through your life and there are really obvious little caves on your path, where P is just hiding in there, whispering in your ear, or jumping out and punching you in the face or punching you in the belly, making you feel bad, freaking you out.

And the invitation here is for you to purposely unearth that stuff. Go in there and rattle that cage and see what’s in that cave. Stick your torch in there and say who’s living in here? At least in your case, a big old bear doesn’t jump out. But you have your invisible bears, right? Again, you need to turn into it. Turn away from P and say, I don’t know, rather than whatever track or tape Personality wants you to run, whatever story or claim P wants to make. You say I don’t know again. And frankly, you say I don’t know until you get to the silence. And maybe it takes two times, maybe it takes a hundred.

And being able to laugh, not as in haha, but because it’s bullshit. It’s just bullshit, and being able to go, not on my watch, man, not on my watch is that going to be what I think next, what I feel next.

Nancy says these unconscious places feel very survival instinct reactions. Survival instinct has been coming up a great deal this week.

Yes. So, now I’m just going to be thinking about food, huh, Personality? Using the survival instinct to distract me? No, not on my watch.

Mindy says tired comes up. Okay, so again, here’s two people in a row where Personality is trying to shunt you off into thinking about physicality, thinking about survival instinct, thinking about body stuff as a way to keep you from facing down I don’t know. So, say I don’t know, again. I don’t know, go right back into it, I don’t know. One more time at least.

So you have your issue, whatever your issue is, and you say, oh my God, what am I ever going to do about this issue? And then you say, I don’t know. And Personality says, that’s because you suck. That’s why you don’t know. And you say, I don’t know and then see what comes up and then see what comes up and then see what comes up. And if any of it’s Personality, keep saying, I don’t know. And yeah, when Personality says you’re hungry, you’re tired, oh, it’s too late for this, you should go to bed, oh, why are you bothering with this, I don’t think it’s working, I never do get these Eloheim tools, right? Whatever bullshit Personality dreams up. You just keep saying I don’t know, I don’t know. To Personality, you’re rejecting. Imagine that you say I don’t know, and then boom, here’s P in your face, right? You turn away from it and return to, I don’t know. Turn away from it and return to abiding, marinating in I don’t know. The goal is to be able to maintain the state of I don’t know as a vastly changed state, legitimately experiencing I don’t know. Not just pretending and then going off and thinking about something, but literally abiding in the I-don’t-know state until choiceless choice arises.

So, if you’re not abiding in I don’t know, and choiceless choice is not arising, you’re still in Personality. This is what we’re saying. So, you need to say I don’t know, again.

Sometimes peace and not triggered is only Level 6. Is it, this isn’t bothering me? That’s the same thing with Veronica and her credit card. She was like I can get to a place where it doesn’t bother me, but that doesn’t make them go away. They’re still there. Even if they’re not bothering me, I know I’m only in Level 6 about it. Which is way better than being in Level 2 but it’s still not the vastly changed state. I’m not having a vastly changed experience, I’m having a somewhat better experience. That still feels exactly the same but slightly less stressful and not good enough because that’s going to still be Homo sapiens. That’s still going to be a Level 6 at best, not a vastly changed state.

So rather than try to pretend away I don’t know, I am going to own it. With the fierceness of the Warrior, I’m going to own the reality of I. literally. don’t. know. I’m not going to try to figure it out. I’m not gonna think about it. I am going to abide and marinate and stay in I don’t know as much as I possibly can, and we promise you, you do that with earnestness and authentic-ness and willingness, and choiceless choice will pop up and it’ll be on stuff you have never even considered before. But that doesn’t happen if you don’t invite in I don’t know.

So you realize you’re in Level 6, you realize you’re coping with uncertainty, you’re trying to mitigate uncertainty, you’re trying to feel better about uncertainty, you’re reassuring yourself about uncertainty, one of those things, or maybe all of them simultaneously, and instead of following any of those things, you surrender that temptation to park yourself there.

And that’s the big trick of this, right? Because for many, many, many decades, and probably lifetimes, Lightworkers were taught that if you can get to hey, I’m not triggered, that means you have accomplished Nirvana. You have done it. You’re there. Tada, star on the forehead. You are the wearing the crown, Lightworker. Here’s your cape. But the truth is that’s just really good Personality and you don’t settle for really good Personality when you know the vastly changed state is an option.

And this I Don’t Know Tool is a way to sort of push into the vastly changed state. You just keep saying I don’t know authentically and honestly and earnestly and humbly until you realize that you have been shot out of Homo sapiens.

Lee Ann says I found I was using I don’t know as a way to cope with fear and uncertainty, as a vending machine, hoping for a good outcome. So, I mentally shrugged and tried to get present instead.

Yeah, that’s a really good catch. So, in the beginning, the I Don’t Know Tool was kind of that, right? It was like, I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know, just shut up the mind. Veronica’s used it that way. She had a phone call with somebody the other day that had the potential to be really sticky. And she didn’t want to make any assumptions about it going in so, she just chanted, I don’t know for like, 10 minutes before the call as a way to quiet her mind. And then, as the person was talking, every time she felt that temptation to reply, to interject, she would say I don’t know instead internally, and that was extraordinarily powerful. So, as a pattern interrupt, it can be a very powerful tool. We’re taking it further today. We’re taking it further into a discovery tool. So, it works as a pattern interrupt tool but it also has the opportunity to work very powerfully as a discovery tool, discovering unconscious ways that you are coping with uncertainty rather than marinating in uncertainty and helping you turn away from the coping mechanisms so that the marination process can be consistent. Constant.

So, if you find yourself thinking, obsessing, reassuring, if you find yourself trying to figure it out, you say I don’t know. Not just as a pattern interrupt, but as an opportunity to embrace and put the And Tool in there, too, actually. It also gives you the opportunity to see more clearly how the unheard voices are influencing the experience you’re having. So, if you say I don’t know and you hear, “that’s because you’re lazy”, that’s because it has been in the mix without you realizing it and you have been reacting and responding to “that’s because you’re lazy” without knowing it. It’s like a silent voice that is affecting you. You turn from that and you say, I don’t know. Those unheard voices have been keeping you in Homo sapiens and Personality and the best you could ever do is get to Level 6 where you’re sort of not freaked out. But those voices are still right there under the surface, waiting for the opportunity to whisper in a voice you can’t hear but affects your experience. When you’re able to turn away from them, not engage with them, not feel embarrassed or ashamed by them, you drop into a place that is vastly different. You’re not hearing them, they’re not there, you’re not engaging with them, they’re gone because they’re bullshit. And when you guys see the bullshit, you drop it.

A lot of our job these days is just saying, by the way, did you see this bit of bullshit that’s bugging you right now that you didn’t know about? And you look at it, you’re like, oh my God, go away. I’m not even dealing with you.

The thing to keep in mind is that you keep at it until you have a vastly changed state. And the temptation might be to settle for I’m not triggered or it’s not bothering me that much anymore. It’s a change. But not vastly changed. And that’s where Veronica’s been with her money situation, being really honest with herself. I have seen evolution, but I have not seen a vastly changed state. And she’s getting kind of worried about that. Like, come on now. So, she was talking to us about it, pushing the issue about the fact that this isn’t vastly changed, is that being in outcome? That’s why we’re having this meeting. We worked it out because that was just a couple hours ago in the hot tub right back there. And now, you say I don’t know until you have that change. Not just till you feel a little better. But until you have that changed state.

Personality doesn’t care if you’re yelling at it or if you’re loving it or if you don’t notice it, it has power until you surrender it.

Dennis says, in my experience, going deeply into the silence, beyond I, within the heart of being, activates a viscerally vibrational homing beacon. Oh interesting. It vibrates right at the center of the gingerbread heart much, much faster than the actual gingerbread heartbeat, happening at a higher fractal. Guides the down and in automatically. Dennis says, it’s a really powerful illumination of the difference between Level 6 and the vastly changed state.

Super juicy body stuff. We think that’s what they call throwing down Alpha. Dennis is throwing down Alpha on the body stuff. We’re not sure if we use that right?

We know for a long time we weren’t able to differentiate Level 6 and Awareness to all of you, very viscerally and very specifically. We would just say that’s the Level 6. Because we can’t explain to you what it’s like to be in Awareness because we’re using Personality to do so, and we would be talking to your Personalities in the attempt, which is never going to work. And we can’t describe what a vastly changed state is very easily. Because again, same problem, this has been a challenge. However, using this backdoor way of saying I don’t know, I don’t know, I don’t know until basically you burn out Personality, you’re in the vastly changed state in that moment.

Level 6 is accompanied by a lot of explaining, talking, coping, working it out. Kind of feeling super spiritual, but still in Personality. And again, there are probably millions and millions and millions of people out there that we could find on the internet that to get to Level 6 would feel to them as though they had accomplished something incredible. And it is. And for our purposes, it’s a starting point, not a stopping place. It’s the jumping-off place.

Dennis. Deeply transforming me as a being in terms of depth and quality of conscious presence with every vibrational pulse of this homing beacon. I experienced the expansion of my heart chakra area, and also my gingerbread like merging into the surroundings.

Fantastic. So, yes, what did we say? The very beginning, the Body piece, gingerbread, physical objects, alternate expressions. You don’t end at your skin. These are all just words to point you into what you’re talking about there. Point you into the fact that edges are not going to be a thing.

Miche says, survival instinct is a bitch.

Trust us. You know, when we had to make a change to the whole thing, to the free-will zone, to up the amount of survival instinct in order to keep you in physical form, we suspected that might come back to bite us in the ass in the end. And it’s not like it necessarily has, it has just made for the journey to be more intense, which you guys don’t exactly mind. Just when you’re in it. You do go to the amusement park to ride the newest roller coaster, after all. It’s part of your programming to be like, what’s the new thing to do? And this is the new thing to do is to go into a place that has density and duality and a strong Primal Instinct. So, you fight to stay in the body. Well, when you fight to stay in the body, you fight to keep things the way they have been in ways that haven’t killed you, that becomes habit and you worry about getting dead which becomes fear. And that makes for a lot of surface area for Personality to run the show. Because if you have a survival instinct that you’ve done no work on, you can’t marinate in uncertainty. It’s too scary to marinate in uncertainty if you have a survival instinct you haven’t done any work on. But if you recognize that your survival Instinct is what’s used to keep you from just popping out of your Homo sapien lifetimes whenever things get challenging and gives you an opportunity to be here and do this thing, well, sometimes you be like, I don’t know why the hell I’m here. Well, that’s a whole different story to talk about, but yeah, we get it.

As for bleed throughs, up till now when we’ve talked about alternate expression bleed through a lot of times, it’s been because people would have bleed throughs that would disorient them and scare them because Personality was processing the bleed through. When Personality doesn’t get to process the bleed through, it’s a whole different thing. So, if you start having bleed throughs, say I don’t know, because you really don’t. Being able to marinate in uncertainty while experiencing alternate expression bleed-through is a gift to you, and a gift to all of your other alternate expressions. And also, a gift to the evolution of your species. And frankly, the only way it’s actually going to be very constructive, helpful, visceral, or interesting. It also goes for the notion of my other incarnations being my tribe.

So, the key is, “I don’t know”. Again, I don’t know can be used as a pattern interrupt. Additionally, I don’t know is a powerful revelation of the ways that you have been coping. Reassuring. Muddling through. And when you discover how you’ve been coping, reassuring, muddling through, don’t engage with it, turn back to I don’t know again. The sooner you make peace with the reality of uncertainty, the easier it’ll be to experience vastly changed states. Because the reality of uncertainty is inescapable. But you’ve gotten really good at avoiding it.

And so, if you turn into the reality of uncertainty, you empower yourselves to experience Homo spiritus rather than Homo sapiens. The vastly changed state, rather than Personality, rather than Level 6.

Jenaire says I woke one day after a nap to an anxiety attack with difficulty breathing. I don’t know led to a delayed, calming down.

Yeah. So, saying I don’t know when that situation is really powerful. Because you don’t know. You’re acknowledging the truth, right? And whenever you’re in truth, it helps. That’s why we say you’re uncertain all the time. So, if you were all pushing against the fact that you’re uncertain, you’re pushing against truth. If instead, you acknowledge you’re uncertain, then you’re moving with truth. You see how important that is?

So be practicing with your I don’t knows. Don’t let it slip around. Don’t let it be slippery. Because it’s had so much practice of being slippery. You’re the one who has to make it not slippery. Be really cautious that you don’t let Personality come up with stopping places. It’s going to want to come up with a stopping place. And the stopping place is going to be a coping mechanism, a reassurance, lots of words talking you out of it. And remember, you can do this about anything, right? It doesn’t just have to be the thing that’s bothering you a lot. It can be about anything. Just be exploratory with this tool.

August 11, 2021

Roots and Bricks and Defining “I”

We want to jump right in with a couple things that have been brewing. The last time we met, we focused quite a lot on how powerful the notion of I Don’t Know is and how you can use it to push out Personality’s effects and focusing your earnestness and your attention on denying Personality any access to you.

When we first started talking about the I Don’t Know Tool, there was a lot of pushback from people who really had a problem with the idea that they don’t know. We feel like now as we talk about it, folks really start to realize, hey, I really don’t know or, I really don’t want to know. By imagining that I know, I’m empowering Personality. By allowing myself to abide in uncertainty, to really marinate in the truth of I don’t know, I free myself from at least some of the clutches of Personality. So, the emphasis there is to be able to marinate in uncertainty without that uncertainty being interpreted by Personality.

The only reason you, as a Homo sapien evolved into Homo spiritus, are hesitant to embrace uncertainty is because Personality has told you that uncertainty is wrong, and it fires up your survival instinct. It fuels everything with fear to give you the impression that uncertainty is something that you have to avoid. And because you can’t avoid uncertainty, you’re permanently trapped, and any efforts to get out of that trap are met by Personality saying, you’re really screwing up if you think getting out of this trap is a good idea. Which throws you into more uncertainty and perpetuates itself. So, the ability to be comfortable with uncertainty is what we’re working on. We know this takes a minute and it’s okay for it to take a minute, but we want you to remember to be consistent about your engagement with it. If you’re not consistent about your engagement with it, you’re mostly going to end up with, oh my god, I was uncertain and I knew I shouldn’t be upset about being uncertain but I was upset, and now I’m in Level 3.

We never want to be in Level 3. So, consistently do it and don’t beat yourself up if it doesn’t work out. Carry on with the reality of I don’t know as a place of reality. Be really honest with ourselves. I don’t know is reality. Personality has done everything you can do to muck up your perception of that reality. And the truth of the matter, no matter what Personality’s pulling, is still that reality is uncertainty.

And you do not have to be afraid of reality. Thus, you do not have to be afraid of uncertainty. You habitually are, but you do not have to be. And that’s the work we’re doing now. The experience of uncertainty has been distorted to be something dangerous instead of reality. What is, IS, and what is, is uncertain.

And we would not be surprised if you reported to us that that bubbles up some uncomfortable feelings. It doesn’t change the fact that it’s still true. And that’s the bottom line we’re facing down right now. That’s the monster under the bed. The scaries that we’re facing down is that there’s this lie that uncertainty is something you have to be afraid of, something you have to avoid, something that is dangerous, when in reality, uncertainty is reality, And all the efforts to dodge, cope, correct, change, hide, and pretend it away means you’ve been empowering Personality to help you dodge and cope and pretend away reality.

Said another way, you are constantly uncertain, and Personality has done it’s best to give you a different perspective on that. In doing so, it had to cast you in a net of limitation and lies and dishonesty. Because it’s been telling you that reality isn’t reality. Well, as it turns out, reality is reality and you can face that reality. You can face the fact that you’re constantly uncertain without having it be a completely huge survival instinct experience. You really can because you’ve done all this work to lead up to it.

Veronica came up with this and we want to share it with you. We’ve been talking about identity and kind of slowly broaching the topic. So, she was like, well, what really is “I” at this point?

“I” is actually Personality until Personality’s surrendered.

The word I does not mean what you think it means. I is actually Personality. Personality doesn’t know and can’t describe what Awareness is because Personality can’t know.

The idea here is that we’ve always told you Personality cannot tell you what Awareness is. Therefore, Personality can’t know anything about Awareness. What that also means, and this is the important part that really sunk in for Veronica, is that if Personality can’t know [this is Veronica speaking] and if I am looking to engage with a situation without Personality’s influence or engage with the situation from Awareness, Personality can’t know anything about that. It’s impossible. So, if Personality’s trying to tell me how to engage, if thinking is trying to tell me how, if I’m trying to figure out how, if I’m engaging with the situation in the way I’ve always engaged with it, Personality can’t know about that situation from any other perspective than Personality’s. This sunk in in a way that allowed her to say, if I’m engaged with this now in a habitual fashion, I am engaged with this now from Personality.

It can’t know a solution to this thing that feels like a conundrum. It can’t know a solution to this thing that feels too big or a solution to the world’s problems. It can’t because it can only give more Personality, and Personality is how we got into this mess. So, we don’t get out of it by using Personality because Personality can’t know Awareness. Personality can’t know an Awareness-based solution or transformation or change. It’s a dry well, there’s nothing. Personality’s already told you everything about that road. Personality can’t know what is available in Awareness. For the entirety of the idea of attempting to solve a problem from Personality, from identity, from thought, from habit, from fear, from survival Instinct, there are no answers using that path.

So, let’s let that sink in for just a minute.

Because what happens is that the desire to surrender Personality at first becomes fighting each battle separately. Something comes up and you go, oh, I see Personality about blank and I’m going to surrender Personality about blank. And then you see something else come up and you say, oh there’s Personality. I’m going to surrender that Personality. And then we’ve been working on surrendering it in wider swathes. Now we’re looking at surrendering the entire notion of Personality’s effect.

It’s a big deal. But the truth of the matter, at the end of the day, is everything about Personality CAN’T know. And if you’re ready to be engaged with the evolutionary experience and exploration of abiding in Awareness constantly, then there has to be a constant rejecting of Personality, a rejecting of sneaky Personality, a rejecting of what Personality thinks it knows, a rejecting of the definition of yourself. Because what you’ve defined yourself to be has been based in what Personality has allowed you to pick from.

Personality has said okay, here are all the definitions available to a Homo sapiens and you are like, “All right, I’ll pick artist and Mom and good worker and kind-hearted and smart and afraid of spiders and let’s see what else. Someone who wants to lose a little bit of weight. Okay, those are my definitions.” Because Personality gave you a list, let’s just call it, and you went down the list and picked out the things based usually on fear, trying to stay alive, and you wrapped that up in a bow and called that “me.”

The problem is that Personality gave you a really short list to pick from. And you never knew that there was something beyond that list. And we’re saying, you got a shitty list to pick from, actually. Because it’s all based in limitation, fueled by fear, driven by the survival Instinct, denying the reality that you’re constantly uncertain. And you scrape together out of the remnants basically, something you call identity: Me, I, you, your name, your social security number, and driver’s license.

You didn’t know you had more to pick from, you didn’t know you had more that you could draw from, but it’s true. You can. And so that’s the invitation. We’re in the time now of shaking off what you have considered your identity. Now, Personality will tell you that this is the scariest, most dangerous thing you’ve ever considered doing, and if you do it, you’re not going to have a kid or a wife or a husband and you’ll probably lose all your money and you definitely lose your hair and you won’t ever have sex again and all these other things.

Personality has a very small pool of things that it allows you to use as identity and it has a very small pool of things that it can threaten you with. And when you start to realize that those threats are baseless and ridiculous and nonsense and they stop affecting you, Personality’s grip drops fast. If you empower those threats out of habit, it’s a way that Personality gets reinforced.

Thoughts or comments you want to share about anything we’ve said, thus far?

How does this work with food and medicines?

There is an incredible amount of power in reclaiming from Personality habitual responses. What we mean by that is, there’s an incredible amount of power in making sure that you take action based in choiceless choice. Now, if you’re not consistently accessing choiceless choice, you don’t want to start winging It when it comes to things like doctors and medicines and things like that. But when you have something with food, perhaps you can make some more experimentation around this. But you also do this with what should I wear today. So, it doesn’t even have to be anything like nutrition. You don’t want to start with anything that activates the survival instinct because that just makes more messy mess. Start with things that are less likely to trigger the survival instinct. Seek choiceless choice in your taking action step. Because most of the time at this point, habit is what you guys run off of.

And Veronica the other day was really feeling into this one because even though she takes action from choiceless choice a lot, she knew she wasn’t taking action based on choiceless choice constantly. And so, she tried to be even more subtle in her catching of choiceless choice. Or not catching, but being aware of choiceless choice.

So, if a habit says brush your teeth right after you eat your breakfast or something like that. It’s like taking that extra moment to feel into this now moment before walking toward the bathroom. I feel the habit of go brush your teeth happening. I’m going to relax into this moment and feel for the sensation of choiceless choice. And you know choiceless choice may say yeah, probably brushing your teeth right now is not the thing to do, or it may be something else. Maybe something else, and letting that relationship with choiceless choice really mature.

Because again, one of the ways that Personality deals with the fact that reality is uncertain is to get you into lots of habits. Those habits are fueled in fear most of the time. So, when you break those habits and that “fueled by fear” away and you say, what is actually choiceless choice in this now, that’s one of the ways that you’re breaking out of Personality telling you what reality is. You’re making room for reality to be revealed. Not hidden from. Revealed. There are the real obvious layers to this and then there’re subtler and subtler layers.

So, if the relationship you’re having with choiceless choice doesn’t feel strong and growing, that’s a place to put into attention. How do you access choiceless choice? You get really, really present. You recognize the pull of habit that Personality is using to try to hide from the reality of uncertainty. And you face it, turn into the reality of uncertainty. And clarity and ahas and choiceless choice bubbles up out of that.

Anybody else have anything to say about anything we’ve said tonight before we go on?

Dennis says, I don’t know leaves some sneaky Personality room for “but I might know. Maybe later.”

Yeah. Good point. Personality can’t know. It’s a really, really good point, and what you’ve just described there. Dennis, really captures the energetic difference that Veronica was feeling but she hadn’t put into words. So, we appreciate you doing so for her and for all of us.

There was a saying of, I don’t know, and that’s really powerful. But if the word I and the definition of it is suspect, then yeah, I don’t really know what we’re going to use to define I. This all started because Veronica is working on this glossary of terms. So, if all of a sudden you have to define what Personality means, it’s like, whoa. When she’s defining Personality or Awareness or whatever she’s working on next, it puts her in the mindset of, I don’t know. Well, what does the word “I” mean?

I don’t know what I don’t know means. I don’t know what “I” is.

And all of that reinforces the fact that you’re uncertain and in your Homo sapiens life, I don’t know what “I” means in that sentence because I don’t know what “I” is and what identity is.

That is supposed to freak you out in Homo sapiens life. In Homo spiritus life, in Awareness life, that’s inspiring.

It’s inspiring because it frees you from that limited little list that we told you about earlier that you picked from to create your identity. And instead allows you to marinate in reality.

You know, we have talked a lot over the years about subatomic particles as a way to describe physicality. Your scientists spend a whole bunch of time and energy and effort trying to dissect reality and it works pretty well, for now. But the truth at the end of it is, the experience of reality, whether you can define it by electrons and quarks and spin and all that stuff that they’ve come up with or not, the experience of reality, whether you’re talking about petting the cat, looking in an electron microscope, or looking in the most powerful telescope you have, the experience of reality is always going to come back to: I don’t know.

It’s unknowable. It’s experienceable and it’s explorable, but it’s not knowable in the sense of containing it within the human brain. And why would you want that? Why would you want your reality, as magnificent as it is from the smallest subatomic particle to the vastness of the heavenly bodies, why in the world would you want to imagine that that is containable in the human mind?

That’s the “and” idea. There’s an “and.” I know a bunch of stuff and there’s so much more to know. One of the examples we like to use is, just go on Google for 5 minutes and find out how much stuff you don’t know. And you wouldn’t want to have that all containable because if it was containable, how small of a list would it have to be?

If you can imagine that you could go on Google and pretend that you knew everything that was accessible to you on Google, very quickly you realize, “Okay, I’m just lying to myself.” And you say, “All right but this subset of stuff that’s on Google, well, I can know that.”

If you were required to shape your identity from simply what you discovered in that small subset of Google and then you forgot that you did that and you imagine that is all there is now, that’s all that is possible, then you forgot that there was anything more than that, you imagine that all that you can take from the world and live and explore and enjoy and be has to be taken out of that small subset that you were able to remember or understand.

Then you live four hundred lifetimes like that.

And now we’re telling you, by the way, there’s this other thing out there beyond what you know in your brain and it’s accessible to you. But the first thing you have to do is break down the barrier within you that says, “The only thing I have access to is this thing I already know.”

And we’re like, oh no, no, no, by the way, there’s so much more. But until you let go of the boundary you have drawn around what is possible, the rest of it isn’t accessible to you.

You have identified yourself as someone who knows this small subset of information, and until you let go of that identity, it’s very hard to let go of that boundary. They are hand in hand. You let go of the identity while surrendering that boundary, and as you do that, you start to have access to more and more and more. But that does not change the fact that your human brain cannot hold it all. So, if you try to hold it all, if you try to use the old way of navigating it, you end up with just a different subset.

If, instead, you change the way that you engage with that new information, you experience it and explore it but don’t try to hold it or limit it or demand that you remember it or make it into any kind of specific shape, if you just allow for it to be uncertain, unknowable, and explorable and experienceable, if you change your identity in relationship to this grander greater amount of access, then you can be part of that grander, greater access.

But you have to release the WHO you thought you were and the way you thought you had to be in order to have access to that grander, greater. That’s what we’re doing.

Anybody want to say anything?

Veronica wants to say, “Holy shit man. That was really cool.”

Dennis says, “Yes, it is.”

The thing that Veronica likes about it is how much clearer that makes it why identity is so much a part of our conversation at this time. That’s the penny that dropped for her, gate latched for her during that. That’s why identity is being talked about. And it does an end run for her around the, “Oh my God, I’m going to lose my identity. I don’t know who I’ll be” to more like what we were describing earlier where it’s, “Oh, of course, I have to surrender my addiction to a limited perspective. Of course, I have to surrender that.”

Anybody else want to type before we carry on? Because we have another whole thing, we want to get into. Another Veronica thing she shared earlier about when she doesn’t get out of bed for three days. What’s she going to do, read books and talk to us? That’s what happens.

Susan says, reality is experienceable and explorable but not containable, allow it to be unknowable.

Yes, powerful sequence. Ties together quite a few things that we’ve been working on as we tend to do. Veronica likes to think of it as we make bricks. She actually talked to a guy while in Mexico who was making bricks with this giant brick oven thing he had built. They made the bricks and then they put them in there and they fired the bricks. So, she has a really good visual for making bricks.

Veronica likes to say we make bricks. An example of a brick we’ve made is we would always say to you: experience and explore, experience and explore, experience and explore. How many times have we said that to you, hundreds, right? Why? So that tonight, months and years later when it comes to the moment to put that brick in the wall, we have that brick.

So that last, whatever 10, 15 minutes. We put a lot of bricks into a wall.

Because we have plop meetings and then we have process meetings. Well, the process meetings build bricks. And then we have meetings like tonight, where we are like, we’re going to put up the South Wall tonight.

Each of the phrases and each of the concepts that we use, we have built that brick over meeting after meeting after meeting, both energetically and verbally. We’ve built those bricks and then we put them in the wall.

So that you can take that entire series of words and go, each one of those things means something. So, when we say it’s experienceable and explorable but not knowable, those aren’t just random words. They’re infused, over time, and with repetition, so that they mean something when it comes time to put them into the wall.

Kate says, great analogy.

Yeah, she loves it. She likes to think of us as the brick builders and for her, it’s super fun when we have a night like tonight and she gets to kind of reflect on how far back the brick building started. We’ve been saying experience and explore for years.

Mr. Dennis says, to add to the point on letting go of limiting perspectives: perspectives are forced to change by confronting the reality of life circumstances, even in the Personality world. This makes reactively clinging to the mindset’s perspectives not make sense.

Yes. Yeah, because the idea that you’re saying, yes, we’re not even going to try to expand on that. Yes, Dennis.

Lately, maybe in the last week or so. it has felt to Veronica there was quite a lot of different news stories and circumstances of life that were feeling large and impossible to engage with, climate being one of them. Plastics in the oceans. Covid, right? Again, the topic doesn’t matter. So whichever one of these kinds of things that feels like a society-wide problem, planetary problem, she was just feeling like, for lack of better words, things felt impossible, extremely difficult, bigger than was solvable. All of which, of course, is Personality. And she’s like, okay, so I’m feeling these ways and that feels really frustrating and difficult and disempowering, and I’m confused about how I should be in relationship to it.

Concurrent to this, she had read this thing about how dandelions, often considered a weed, have all these beneficial things that they do. So, she had this visual in her mind of a dandelion plant with the flower and the leaves and all the roots. And we can use that visual because at the same time she was also pondering that life felt bigger than she could deal with in a lot of different ways. We would imagine some of you have similar feelings about things that feel big. You’ve got to be extraordinarily vigilant when considering a large-scale issue, and this can be things like paying off your debt or dealing with a large-scale planetary issue. It doesn’t have to only be big issues but things that feel big to you personally. When it feels big to you, especially when it involves a lot of other people, you’ve got to be absolutely, with no exceptions, vigilant that your engagement with that idea doesn’t also engage with all the Personality attached to it.

Imagine a flower and all the roots going down into the ground. If you try to pull the plant out, a lot of times it’s impossible. However, if you break off or cut off the flower, that can be very easy. So, the weight of the Personality that’s attached to any kind of large-scale issue is like those roots that are deep in the ground. The roots are pulling on the whole idea, holding it in a one perspective, forcing it to be where it is not allowing for flexibility or movement.

We were realizing with Veronica that when she was thinking about large-scale issues, she would think something like, how in the world are you going to get eight billion people to change simultaneously? That felt impossible. How in the world are you going to get 800 people to agree on something or how in the world are you going to get something that even eight people agree on? So, if you start with how in the world am I going to get all these roots out of the ground and instead you just engage with the actual situation, you surrender the habitual engagement with the Personality that’s involved also. Now let us explain this because that’s probably a lot of words that don’t necessarily feel actionable.

We’re going to use Veronica paying off her credit cards as an example. The temptation when engaging with the credit cards is to remember the expenditures and situations that they represent. You know, I had to buy this, I had to pay for that, that emergency occurred and it costs a lot of money. Whatever. That’s what we’re talking about. Those are the roots, right? So, the balance on the credit card is blank because the thing feels awful. Then, of course, there’s always things of like, good girls pay off our credit cards, and good girls don’t have credit cards, and all that bullshit that goes along with it. All of that Personality is like the roots holding that plant in place.

There’s nothing that can really be gained by engaging with all of those roots. And again, it becomes that way of dealing with Personality where each individual thought, each notion, each situation, feels like it has to be engaged with.

Rather, the opportunity is to only engage with, in our example, the flower. You play the cards you’re dealt. Imagine that you were dealt the situation right now, so we’ll use plastics in the oceans, right? So, you see plastics in the oceans and you think, oh my God, why are we so dependent upon plastic? And why are people throwing plastic in the ocean, why you recycle, and why doesn’t recycling actually work, and why this and why that? And how will we never ever get all the people to agree that we shouldn’t throw things in the ocean, right? That’s in all those individual roots that you’re trying to deal with. You can see that there, of course, you’re going to feel hopeless. That’s the guy pushing the rock up the hill, right? If, instead, you imagine that the situation is as it is now and not bringing the baggage of all the Personality that got it there along with you, this is not denying reality. Because what we’re saying is, we’re facing down what reality is, plastics in the oceans.

Now, of course, Personality is going to pop up and say, well, maybe you pretend it didn’t happen. We’re not pretending it didn’t happen. We’re just not making the focus on the pretending it has or being engaged with the fact that it happened. We’re starting with IT IS. And when you take away the Personality, that’s putting it down. Here’s one of the things that happen: you disengage the fact that you’ve got Level 1, Level 2, Level 3 energy from other people who aren’t on a consciousness journey that is bogging down that notion.

We hope we’re explaining this? We’re not sure we are but, you know, it’s a new one. So, we’ll work on it. You got a whole bunch of people out there, for example, who don’t mind throwing stuff in the ocean. Okay. If you’re trying to transform the experience of plastics in the ocean, well, energetically the energy of people who don’t give a shit about that is still engaged. You’re never going to pull out that flower because all those roots are going to hold on to the ground. We’re disengaging those roots, disengaging those lower vibrational or lower consciousness energies from the situation so the situation can be engaged with from Awareness, ideally.

Does this make sense? We don’t expect you to know how to do this. Just the notion that we’re talking about, does it make any sense? This is one of those things that when we talk to Veronica about it, there’s a lot of visuals involved so we don’t have to use all these words, and so, when we finally have to make words, it’s like a little awkward.

Nancy says, yes it does and I’m very grateful. You are opening this up. Dennis says, yes, it makes sense. Darcy says makes sense. Wonderful. Susan says, yes, it makes sense. Engage with the situation. Eva’s been freshly dealt a hand of cards, not as if we need to puzzle over every card’s history, got it.

When you disengage that history-good word-and the Personality and all the other people’s energy that’s mixing it up in there, where do you end up? You end up in like Level 5, Level 6, right? Because you’re like, this trigger is mine. That’s Level Five. You’re saying. I am choicelessly drawn to deal with plastics in the ocean. I am taking it on as my experience. I’m not requiring anybody else on the entire freaking planet to be involved in this. At this point, I alone am engaging with this. Genetically. And that’s a real interesting thing to do, because you didn’t put all that plastic in the ocean. You’re saying, I am taking this on now. We’re not saying you have to take it on as your burden to solve, or you’re responsible for every piece of plastic in the ocean. Don’t let Personality distract you here. You’re just saying, I am choicelessly drawn to energetically engage with whatever. As such, this trigger is mine.

Does that trigger you for us to say this trigger is yours? Because it was triggering you. This is not our point. We’re trying to Warrior up a little here, not trigger you.

Nancy says it makes sense. Darcy says she’s not triggered.

Okay, so least two people aren’t triggered by what we’re saying. So, we’ll start there. I’m choosing to energetically engage because I’m a nerd. I’m choicelessly drawn to this situation. I will disengage everybody else’s energy out of it. I am willing to be in interaction with it. That’s a Warrior thing of pulling your triggers close, and in this case, stimulus, right? And so, you start from Level 6. You know that you use your Warrior energy to be like, I’m not going to be afraid of this, and then you’re in, I am not triggered. Meaning, you are not letting Personality be in charge. So, you start at the best possible relationship from the Personality side of the equation, you start at the best possible relationship to the situation. I am engaged by choice. I am not triggered. I’m not in fear, anxiety, frustration overwhelm. I’m not in: everybody else is going to just screw this up no matter how much of a difference I make. Eight billion people are still screwing things up, and you’re not in that either. You’re in a more mostly neutral but engaged experience and explore.

So, you start with a Level 6 interaction. Now, if you had said, or we had said to any of you a few months ago, by the way, you’re going to start off with your global issue that you feel drawn to care about again and you’re going to start from Level 6, not being triggered, you’d be like, well, of course I’m triggered by blank. That’s why I care about it. Because it triggers me. But see, you’re all grown-ups now in your spiritual journey, and you recognize that starting from freaked out does nobody any good. All you are then is a root. Do you want to be a root? You don’t want to be a root. So, you have to start from Level 6.

Let’s have a moment with that. When have we ever told you we’re going to start something from Level 6, that we can’t even go to Level 4? You’re not choosing your reaction to this shit. You’re like, I’m going to Warrior up and not be triggered and get rid of all those lower energy people that are clinging onto this. And I’m going to hold this close to me and I’m going to see what choicelessness arises. We don’t have to raise our voice and do our Warrior voice a little bit. That’s where we’re starting.

Questions about that? We’re not done but we just want to make room for your comments.

Nancy says, wow is a complete sentence.

Yes, it is one that made us laugh.

So, if you start at Level 6, it’s Personality can’t know. That’s not a triggered place. That’s reality. I am uncertain. That’s reality. Personality can’t know. That’s reality. I’ve done my best to disengage this issue from the lower vibrational, unconscious, don’t-give-a-shit energy that’s floating around on this planet. That’s reality.

And now, I am present. And any kind of Personality that tries to fly up, like that machine that shoots out tennis balls in practice and wants you to batt them around with them with your tennis racket, just get off the court. Don’t engage. Shoot all the balls you want; I’m going to the basketball court. Nobody’s shooting some balls at me over there. Personality will want to get involved in this.

Remember earlier, we talked about how there’s that small section of Google that you figured out and then you imagined that was all there was. The answer to plastics in the ocean is not in that small circle. If it were, some smart person would have already gone, hey, this is all we got to do. I got that page of Google memorized. No. The answer to that is not in a small circle. So that means, it cannot be accessed via thinking. It doesn’t come from thought and you thought about all of them enough. It has to come from insight, ahas, choiceless choice. It has to come when that circle is broken. When identity is surrendered. When you recognize there is more that can only be accessed when you break down the way you have always participated. The answers to global problems are not in that circle.

Now, somebody’s Personality is like, well those answers are there but the government or big business won’t let us have them, all that. That whole thing, that whole sentence, that whole thought, that’s all in the circle. Don’t go there.

You have to break out of it.

How do you break out of it? Exact things we’ve been doing for the last five years. So, catch and surrender Personality. Be on the lookout for sneaky Personality trying to get back in, and again, surrender that as well. Earnestly root out the impact of Personality. Become more and more sensitive to the subtle forms choiceless choice can take. Because, we’ll tell you, when the nudge to take action on plastics in the ocean or any other large issue that you were interested in comes, if you haven’t trained yourself to be looking for those nudges and noticing when they’re there, you’ll skip it. Because Personality be like, none of that, nothing to see here. That’s not in our little circle.

It’s like when you’re driving the car, you’ve trained yourself where to look, you keep an eye on the car in front of you, you keep an eye on the traffic lights, you keep an eye on the stop signs. You keep an eye on the crosswalks. Are you noticing the flowers that are blooming in the neighbor’s yard? Probably not. Because you’re going 50 miles an hour and if you’re looking to the side, you can kill somebody. That doesn’t mean those flowers are not there. It means that you and your habitual navigation of the world have been blind to them. They’re outside of the circle right there, not on the Google pages you’ve memorized.

And you will become more and more sensitive to the ways of choiceless choice the more and more you let go of the ways of Personality. And who you know and believe yourself to be will become more and more expansive as you experience and explore reality.

So, whatever your large cultural issue or large issue you feel you face in your life is, spend some time engaging with it from the perspective of what are the roots? It’s not, what are the roots so I can think about them. It’s, what are the roots so I can recognize I’m disengaging from all those roots. I want to take my issue out of the hands of Personality, disengage it from Homo sapiens.

We just really visualize you guys grabbing this issue and holding it to your chest. Like the Warrior said, keep things close, right? It’s like you’re saying, I’m taking this out of the hands of people who are not at the point in their evolution where they can engage with it beyond what Personality has offered them.

So, if you have something like a paying off a credit card, everybody else’s energy around paying off a credit card is mixed in there. Maybe it’s small, but if you’ve got 600 million people with issues about paying off credit cards influencing you and all the thoughts you’ve ever had about it, all the things you’ve bought with it, and all the way your friends talk about it all connected in there energetically, will you need to get your energetic machete out? Right? We got to cut that off at ground level so those roots are not also mucking up the system because it’s enough for you to be responsible for surrendering your Personality feelings and thoughts, and habits and fears about it. If you’ve got everybody else’s in there too, it’s a big ask. So, cut that off, however that ends up looking for you. For Veronica, it was just really noticing that that her feelings about things were influenced by by societal norms in a way that wasn’t helping her.

Again, this is something that will dig into more, of course.

Okay. We really would like some feedback about any of that at this point. It’s time for your turn to talk.

Susan says the image of holding the issue close, as if up to my chest while open to and on the lookout for choices around, it is really helpful.

Because if it’s something that you’re really feeling, you’re already weighted by it, right? You may as well be honest about that. You may as well turn into it. The uncertainty is already a burden to you. You may as well turn into that uncertainty instead of trying really hard not to think about the polar bears on those little pieces of ice.

Susan says it also feels like holding it in my heart space.

Kay says, I have felt very disempowered in making a difference. This is very helpful.

An example around here is that there’s a drought, and somehow Veronica got signed up on this Gardening Facebook group because she needed lemons and they had lemons portrayed. So now she’s in this Gardening Facebook group and she keeps getting all these really great gardening pictures because people are harvesting a lot right now and she’s really enjoying it. But there’s also a drought right now and one woman was really, really upset about the fact that people were planting ornamental plants right now during a drought. Okay, so clearly, she has a passion for water conservation. She’s engaging with it from not a great place but also engaging with it from a place that’s all about the energy of other people. So, you can see how that’s a really burdensome way to go about it and it’s the way Personality’s gone about it. Like, sign petitions and run for office. And you know, try to push that rock up the hill energy.

And that occasionally does accomplish something, but that’s just the lower levels of Personality. So, we want a different way of doing it. Right? And what’s the point of doing all this work if we can’t also have a different way of being in the world?

Dennis says, energetically, it feels a lot like letting go of the Personality baggage you are describing. It’s also powerful because it’s also letting go of the weight of the investment in the problem as well as the fear of the solution.

Yeah, the investment in the problem is a really good one. The idea of this will never change because there was a climate report that came out that’s pretty dire if it’s accepted at face value. It’s like, things are difficult on the planet right now. And if you say things are difficult on the planet right now and a whole bunch of people don’t believe in climate change and big businesses aren’t going to do anything and the governments don’t care, all of a sudden, you’re just like, one little person trying real hard not to use more than you feel is your fair share. And that can feel like a drop in a bucket and the bucket’s the size of the ocean. So, all that does is give Personality more and more surface area for limiting thoughts. So, then you’re stuck.

And you know the thought that immediately pops into Veronica’s mind is, but what can you do about it? It’s like, well, if you try to do something, not much. Instead you break down the circle: surrender Personality, cut off the roots, everything we talked about tonight. But Personality doesn’t want to hear that because P is like well, you know, what does that even mean? How does that look? How does that work? What’s it…? No, no, no.

Tiffy says, this feels like how I’ve been dealing my job.

Excellent. How’s that go for you when you deal with your job that way?

There’s a big root connected with healthcare and the Veterans Administration issues.

We imagine that’s true. She says right now I feel fried. So burnt out. Yeah, so hopefully tonight’s talk will give you a little bit more tools to work with.

Who else? We’re about done for tonight. We don’t have much new stuff to say unless you guys give us some comments.

Darcy says clearly seeing how doing the inside work has an impression on the external. It feels empowering.

Yes. You know, when we first started bringing up the fact that we wanted to start talking to all of you about global issues, Veronica was little like, plastics in the ocean and climate change? Seriously? But why wouldn’t we talk about those things because they’re no different. The topic doesn’t matter. It’s no different than getting your lemons because you see a post about a Facebook group where they trade vegetables back and forth with each other. It’s no different. Somebody who’s got a lemon tree randomly and beautifully synchronizing to your need for lemons and clearing plastics from the oceans are not different. What’s different is the amount of weird, creepy Level 1, Level 2, Level 3 energy that hangs around in both of those situations. And your own perspective on a bigger issue is harder. Oh, I’ve been so disempowered for so long. One person can’t make a difference. Blah, blah, blah. But the bottom line at the end of the day is they are not different, and someday you will actually know this viscerally. That is our hope right now.

It feels like we just started because it all feels new but we also feel done for tonight. We should say, Veronica’s done.

Nancy says this meeting tonight feels like pushing against a wall that isn’t a wall at all. Just push the hand right through.

We get what you’re saying. That circle, right? You’ve always lived in that circle and you’re beginning to realize that staying in that circle does not benefit you. And you’re beginning to recognize that all the bricks, all the different tools we’ve given you combined, empower you to get out of that circle and the experience and exploration that is invited when you get out of that circle.

Personality can’t know what that is. So don’t let Personality tell you what we mean by any of this or put limitations on the experience of it. Because Personality can’t know.

We feel like we’re done then. Goodnight to all of you. Much love and thank you.

August 15, 2021

Continuation of the previous meeting. Eloheim takes us on a deep dive of surrendering the Big-B body version of Personality as it affects global/big-to-us issues. INCREDIBLE!! Offer the emanation of a vastly changed state to the entirety of the human race!

August 25, 2021

A tremendous full Council session. Each Council contributed incredible insights. Fred and the Matriarch worked energetically. The Guardians came up with an amazing analogy (the bowling alley). The Guardians spoke about “disorienting uncertainty” and how important that is to our evolution. The Warrior and the Girls offered their unique perspectives. Eloheim expressed this time in the work and the world with such clarity…and so much more. INCREDIBLE!!

Four Sessions held in August 2021

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